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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://grapethinking.com/toasting-lehman-brothers-death/comment-page-1#comment-4614</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There will certainly be cases in which it is unfortunate, and for those I feel their pain..  however, there is much to say about a company that hands out $2.5 billion in bonuses after having the largest bankruptcy in history - http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking_and_finance/article4795072.ece</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There will certainly be cases in which it is unfortunate, and for those I feel their pain..  however, there is much to say about a company that hands out $2.5 billion in bonuses after having the largest bankruptcy in history &#8211; <a href="http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking_and_finance/article4795072.ece" rel="nofollow">http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking_and_finance/article4795072.ece</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://grapethinking.com/toasting-lehman-brothers-death/comment-page-1#comment-6383</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There will certainly be cases in which it is unfortunate, and for those I feel their pain..  however, there is much to say about a company that hands out $2.5 billion in bonuses after having the largest bankruptcy in history - http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking_and_finance/article4795072.ece</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There will certainly be cases in which it is unfortunate, and for those I feel their pain..  however, there is much to say about a company that hands out $2.5 billion in bonuses after having the largest bankruptcy in history &#8211; <a href="http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking_and_finance/article4795072.ece" rel="nofollow">http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking_and_finance/article4795072.ece</a></p>
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		<title>By: Draano</title>
		<link>http://grapethinking.com/toasting-lehman-brothers-death/comment-page-1#comment-4604</link>
		<dc:creator>Draano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a former employee of Lehman, I&#039;m glad you enjoyed our misfortune. Not everyone was a banker there, and not everyone was making an outrageous fortune there. I received a better salary in the banking industry than I would have made in my previous job, but if you factored in the 60 - 70 hour high-stress work weeks, my per-hour rate was the same or lower than I received prior to coming to the street. And as you were feeling good about yourself, you weren&#039;t imagining the college funds or savings cushions that evaporated before our eyes while a firmwide moratorium was in place on our trading the firm&#039;s securities, preventing us from getting out 5% of years of the bonus money that was paid in firm stock. 

Will you also sit outside families&#039; houses while they are evicted due to loss of work in this down economy? You better buy a few more cases of wine and prepare to be hammered constantly. Perhaps you&#039;ll be decent enough to share a glass with the departing occupants...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former employee of Lehman, I&#8217;m glad you enjoyed our misfortune. Not everyone was a banker there, and not everyone was making an outrageous fortune there. I received a better salary in the banking industry than I would have made in my previous job, but if you factored in the 60 &#8211; 70 hour high-stress work weeks, my per-hour rate was the same or lower than I received prior to coming to the street. And as you were feeling good about yourself, you weren&#8217;t imagining the college funds or savings cushions that evaporated before our eyes while a firmwide moratorium was in place on our trading the firm&#8217;s securities, preventing us from getting out 5% of years of the bonus money that was paid in firm stock. </p>
<p>Will you also sit outside families&#8217; houses while they are evicted due to loss of work in this down economy? You better buy a few more cases of wine and prepare to be hammered constantly. Perhaps you&#8217;ll be decent enough to share a glass with the departing occupants&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Draano</title>
		<link>http://grapethinking.com/toasting-lehman-brothers-death/comment-page-1#comment-6382</link>
		<dc:creator>Draano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a former employee of Lehman, I&#039;m glad you enjoyed our misfortune. Not everyone was a banker there, and not everyone was making an outrageous fortune there. I received a better salary in the banking industry than I would have made in my previous job, but if you factored in the 60 - 70 hour high-stress work weeks, my per-hour rate was the same or lower than I received prior to coming to the street. And as you were feeling good about yourself, you weren&#039;t imagining the college funds or savings cushions that evaporated before our eyes while a firmwide moratorium was in place on our trading the firm&#039;s securities, preventing us from getting out 5% of years of the bonus money that was paid in firm stock. 

Will you also sit outside families&#039; houses while they are evicted due to loss of work in this down economy? You better buy a few more cases of wine and prepare to be hammered constantly. Perhaps you&#039;ll be decent enough to share a glass with the departing occupants...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former employee of Lehman, I&#8217;m glad you enjoyed our misfortune. Not everyone was a banker there, and not everyone was making an outrageous fortune there. I received a better salary in the banking industry than I would have made in my previous job, but if you factored in the 60 &#8211; 70 hour high-stress work weeks, my per-hour rate was the same or lower than I received prior to coming to the street. And as you were feeling good about yourself, you weren&#8217;t imagining the college funds or savings cushions that evaporated before our eyes while a firmwide moratorium was in place on our trading the firm&#8217;s securities, preventing us from getting out 5% of years of the bonus money that was paid in firm stock. </p>
<p>Will you also sit outside families&#8217; houses while they are evicted due to loss of work in this down economy? You better buy a few more cases of wine and prepare to be hammered constantly. Perhaps you&#8217;ll be decent enough to share a glass with the departing occupants&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ruarri</title>
		<link>http://grapethinking.com/toasting-lehman-brothers-death/comment-page-1#comment-4490</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruarri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>point taken - I know someone who joined Lehman 2 months ago and is now out of a job. The problem is that when they signed they got a £40k signing bonus, so losing their job wasn&#039;t such a bad thing - but that signing bonus must have come from somewhere... and perhaps that&#039;s not &#039;risk management&#039; its just from the self-congratulation fund. 

yes - a bad economy is bad, and the job losses are awful. hopefully we don&#039;t lose the lesson though. I think an economy that focuses too much on service and self-enrichment and not on building long-term value is a bad thing. Many people at Lehman and on Wall Street didn&#039;t bat an eyelid for people in Katrina and wined about tax-increases... 

we need to look at having more &#039;green-collar&#039; jobs - jobs in agriculture, sustaining the environment and building a better future. we&#039;ve just been caught in a little lapse of greed where we all lived credit-fuelled lifestyles and its come back to bite us.

I think that the restaurant and leisute industry may suffer - but we are seeing share prices of Dominoes Pizza and such franchises go up, and subscripitions to Netflix and retail of bottles of wine are also on the increase... a bad economy is not ideal - but people going home to drink a little wine and spend time with the family, and perhaps eat a pizza is not the worst thing either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>point taken &#8211; I know someone who joined Lehman 2 months ago and is now out of a job. The problem is that when they signed they got a £40k signing bonus, so losing their job wasn&#8217;t such a bad thing &#8211; but that signing bonus must have come from somewhere&#8230; and perhaps that&#8217;s not &#8216;risk management&#8217; its just from the self-congratulation fund. </p>
<p>yes &#8211; a bad economy is bad, and the job losses are awful. hopefully we don&#8217;t lose the lesson though. I think an economy that focuses too much on service and self-enrichment and not on building long-term value is a bad thing. Many people at Lehman and on Wall Street didn&#8217;t bat an eyelid for people in Katrina and wined about tax-increases&#8230; </p>
<p>we need to look at having more &#8216;green-collar&#8217; jobs &#8211; jobs in agriculture, sustaining the environment and building a better future. we&#8217;ve just been caught in a little lapse of greed where we all lived credit-fuelled lifestyles and its come back to bite us.</p>
<p>I think that the restaurant and leisute industry may suffer &#8211; but we are seeing share prices of Dominoes Pizza and such franchises go up, and subscripitions to Netflix and retail of bottles of wine are also on the increase&#8230; a bad economy is not ideal &#8211; but people going home to drink a little wine and spend time with the family, and perhaps eat a pizza is not the worst thing either.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruarri</title>
		<link>http://grapethinking.com/toasting-lehman-brothers-death/comment-page-1#comment-6381</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruarri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>point taken - I know someone who joined Lehman 2 months ago and is now out of a job. The problem is that when they signed they got a £40k signing bonus, so losing their job wasn&#039;t such a bad thing - but that signing bonus must have come from somewhere... and perhaps that&#039;s not &#039;risk management&#039; its just from the self-congratulation fund. 

yes - a bad economy is bad, and the job losses are awful. hopefully we don&#039;t lose the lesson though. I think an economy that focuses too much on service and self-enrichment and not on building long-term value is a bad thing. Many people at Lehman and on Wall Street didn&#039;t bat an eyelid for people in Katrina and wined about tax-increases... 

we need to look at having more &#039;green-collar&#039; jobs - jobs in agriculture, sustaining the environment and building a better future. we&#039;ve just been caught in a little lapse of greed where we all lived credit-fuelled lifestyles and its come back to bite us.

I think that the restaurant and leisute industry may suffer - but we are seeing share prices of Dominoes Pizza and such franchises go up, and subscripitions to Netflix and retail of bottles of wine are also on the increase... a bad economy is not ideal - but people going home to drink a little wine and spend time with the family, and perhaps eat a pizza is not the worst thing either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>point taken &#8211; I know someone who joined Lehman 2 months ago and is now out of a job. The problem is that when they signed they got a £40k signing bonus, so losing their job wasn&#8217;t such a bad thing &#8211; but that signing bonus must have come from somewhere&#8230; and perhaps that&#8217;s not &#8216;risk management&#8217; its just from the self-congratulation fund. </p>
<p>yes &#8211; a bad economy is bad, and the job losses are awful. hopefully we don&#8217;t lose the lesson though. I think an economy that focuses too much on service and self-enrichment and not on building long-term value is a bad thing. Many people at Lehman and on Wall Street didn&#8217;t bat an eyelid for people in Katrina and wined about tax-increases&#8230; </p>
<p>we need to look at having more &#8216;green-collar&#8217; jobs &#8211; jobs in agriculture, sustaining the environment and building a better future. we&#8217;ve just been caught in a little lapse of greed where we all lived credit-fuelled lifestyles and its come back to bite us.</p>
<p>I think that the restaurant and leisute industry may suffer &#8211; but we are seeing share prices of Dominoes Pizza and such franchises go up, and subscripitions to Netflix and retail of bottles of wine are also on the increase&#8230; a bad economy is not ideal &#8211; but people going home to drink a little wine and spend time with the family, and perhaps eat a pizza is not the worst thing either.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Cress</title>
		<link>http://grapethinking.com/toasting-lehman-brothers-death/comment-page-1#comment-4489</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Cress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Despite trying to make as much money as possible, Lehman&#039;s downfall had less to do with greed and more to do with inadequate risk management.

A bad economy (and I know many good people - Lehman employees included - who have have recently lost their jobs) is bad for everyone - including the wine industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite trying to make as much money as possible, Lehman&#8217;s downfall had less to do with greed and more to do with inadequate risk management.</p>
<p>A bad economy (and I know many good people &#8211; Lehman employees included &#8211; who have have recently lost their jobs) is bad for everyone &#8211; including the wine industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Cress</title>
		<link>http://grapethinking.com/toasting-lehman-brothers-death/comment-page-1#comment-6380</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Cress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Despite trying to make as much money as possible, Lehman&#039;s downfall had less to do with greed and more to do with inadequate risk management.

A bad economy (and I know many good people - Lehman employees included - who have have recently lost their jobs) is bad for everyone - including the wine industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite trying to make as much money as possible, Lehman&#8217;s downfall had less to do with greed and more to do with inadequate risk management.</p>
<p>A bad economy (and I know many good people &#8211; Lehman employees included &#8211; who have have recently lost their jobs) is bad for everyone &#8211; including the wine industry.</p>
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